From the amazon I know, people only care about a. not getting fired and b. promotions. For devs, the matrix looks like this:
1. Shipping: deliver tickets or be pipped.
2. Having Less comments on their PRs: for some drastically dumb reason, having a PR thoroughly reviewed is a sign of bad quality. L7 and above use this metric to Pip folks.
3. Docs: write docs, get them reviewed to show you're high level.
Without AI, an employee is worse off in all of the above compared to folks who will cheat to get ahead.
I can't see how "requesting" folks for forego their own self-preservation will work. especially when you've spent years pitting people against each other.
> 2. Having Less comments on their PRs: for some drastically dumb reason, having a PR thoroughly reviewed
I'm very far away from liking Amazon's engineering culture and general work culture, but having PRs with countless of discussions and feedback on it does signal that you've done a lot of work without collaborating with others before doing the work. Generally in teams that work well together and build great software, the PRs tend to have very little on them, as most of the issues were resolved while designing together with others.
If the review tooling is any good, getting the code somewhere it can see it is a convenient way for people to give and receive feedback. As the saying goes, the system is what it does!
(And/but yes/no, I have never worked at NAGFAM...)
Eh I feel like there are some features where you just have to get in the weeds to even design it and the code review itself is part of the process of designing/figuring out the edge cases.
> Eh I feel like there are some features where you just have to get in the weeds to even design it and the code review
I agree, but those are separate tasks completely (in my view) compared to "Someone writes code that goes into production", usually called "spikes" or something else to differentiate them from "normal" tasks. They're quite literally just about exploration and figuring out the design, before the "real" work starts.
1. Shipping: deliver tickets or be pipped.
2. Having Less comments on their PRs: for some drastically dumb reason, having a PR thoroughly reviewed is a sign of bad quality. L7 and above use this metric to Pip folks.
3. Docs: write docs, get them reviewed to show you're high level.
Without AI, an employee is worse off in all of the above compared to folks who will cheat to get ahead.
I can't see how "requesting" folks for forego their own self-preservation will work. especially when you've spent years pitting people against each other.