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As a European, I would like to know in _which_ European country you're based. I think I know all of them, people from abroad might not. Saying "Made in Europe" is too general for my European liking. ;)




I'd also like to know what "based in the EEA" means:

> For interoperability to work, both you and your WhatsApp contacts need to be based in the EEA.

Does my contact phone number need to have an EEA country code? Does my current IP address need to be geolocated in the EEA? Do I need to download the two apps from a regional App Store in the EEA? Do I need to show an EEA payment method to both apps? What happens to my chats if I move or switch app stores?


I agree, made in Europe, does not give enogh information. Their T&C gives the details: They are from Latvia.

I dare to claim: A majority of EU citizens know really nothing about Latvia.


I thought the same thing.

I also don't think there's such a thing as "made in Europe", as if it was "made in USA". Is it made in Germany, Italy, Albania..?


Surely it's very similar, companies can't - AFAIK - be registered in USA, they're registered in a state. USA's States have different tax and legislative climates, just like EU states do.

There is actually a "European company" structure.

https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/running-business/devel...

Most notably, Airbus is an "European company".


It's not. Part of Russia is in Europe. The geographical limit between Europe and Asia is not well defined.

I think it would be similar to saying "First American chat app that...", which would be ambiguous?


Sure, but the U.S. are a single country, while Europe is many different countries that are completely different.

I'm in Poland and can drive 2 hours and stop understanding what people are saying to me (in German and Czech).

That was my point.


> while Europe is many different countries that are completely different.

I've always found this a weird take. European (EU) countries are more similar to each other than any country outside of Europe is to any European country.

In your example, if you drive two hours to Germany or Czechia, your car will still be insured, all your bank cards will still work, the price of your mobile phone service stays the same, you'll have a good idea how health and employment systems work, and the chances are you'll be able to talk to people in English.

It remains true that the barriers the businesses face are higher, but that's not what your example was about.


Could even be Turkey west of the Bosphorus.

They can fabricate the product in Bursa and do final assembly in West-Istanbul.


Or Russia...

Correct, Russia is in both Europe and Asia.

Plenty of supermarket products say made in Europe, particularly (but not only) white label products.

Maybe "made in the EU"..? That is not the same thing as "made in Europe".

The words aren't important. The regulated meaning is. Does it have a legal meaning? If so, what is it? Who enforces it? Consider made in Italy vs made in Germany are different in meaningful aspects.

Is there even a regulated meaning to "made in X"?

The way I see it, "made in Europe" may be dubious, but "made in EU" should be just as okay to write as "made in USA". And if it's not a thing, well, nothing is a thing until people make it a thing.

EDIT: also we're talking about a software product here, where most things written on the product is legally meaningless - otherwise we'd have special customs regimes for those major software exporter places like "love" and "♡".


I know that there is a regulated meaning—at least for food—even down to the region (Scotch, Chianti, Champagne, etc.) or even city (Modena, for balsamic vinegar), but laws aren't the same in every country.

"Made in EU" would be equivalent to "Made in USA", and I'm pretty sure it's regulated.

This is just an app though, so they can say whatever they want. I've seen "Made with love", "Made on Earth", etc.


As my comment implied, there is in some places, but the regulations aren't uniform. Also, the person I responded to mentioned supermarket products. I was asking legitimate questions & was hoping to get an informed response.

The company of the website appears to be based in Riga, Latvia https://company.lursoft.lv/en/fyello-productivity/4020345542...


Reminds me eurosky.social they have on page:

"For Europe, this is our chance to build competitive alternatives to Big Tech. But we need European-hosted infrastructure to make that possibility a reality."

Page is hosted in USA.


I won't understand why people do that when Hetzner is so effective.



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