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This title is moderately clickbait-y and comes with a subtle implication that Rust might be getting removed from the kernel. IMO it should be changed to "Rust in the kernel is no longer experimental"




I absolutely understand the sentiment, but LWN is a second-to-none publication that on this rare occasion couldn't resist the joke, and also largely plays to an audience who will immediately understand that it's tongue-in-cheek.

Speaking as a subscriber of about two decades who perhaps wouldn't have a career without the enormous amount of high-quality education provided by LWN content, or at least a far lesser one: Let's forgive.


He didn't intend it as a joke and his intent matches the op's title revision request: https://lwn.net/Articles/1049840/

> on this rare occasion couldn't resist the joke

It was unintentional as per author

> Ouch. That is what I get for pushing something out during a meeting, I guess. That was not my point; the experiment is done, and it was a success. I meant no more than that.


The “Ouch.” was in reference to being compared to Phoronix.

Has anyone found them to be inaccurate, or fluffy to the point it degraded the content?

I haven’t - but then again, probably predominantly reading the best posts being shared on aggregators.


Fair. But there’s even an additional difference between snarky clickbait and “giving the exact opposite impression of the truth in a headline” ;)

Hacker news generally removes Clickbait titles regardless of the provenance

If it was being removed the title would be "An update on rust in the kernel"

I think on HN, people generally want the submission's title to match the page's title.

(I do agree it's clickbait-y though)


Guidelines say fine to editorialize in these cases.

> Otherwise please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


I prefer improved titles. However, not in this case. It is rather irony, because LWN does not need click-bait.

I think on HN, people waste too much time arguing about the phrasing of the headline, whether it is clickbait, etc. and not enough discussing the actual substance of the article.

i agree and this matches the authors intent: https://lwn.net/Articles/1049840/

It’s a bit clickbait-y, but the article is short, to the point, and frankly satisfying. If there is such a thing as good clickbait, then this might be it. Impressive work!

Might as well just post it:

  The topic of the Rust experiment was just discussed at the annual Maintainers Summit. The consensus among the assembled developers is that Rust in the kernel is no longer experimental — it is now a core part of the kernel and is here to stay. So the "experimental" tag will be coming off. Congratulations are in order for all of the Rust-for-Linux team.

Perhaps, except it can have the reverse effect. I was surprised, disappointed, and then almost moved on without clicking the link or the discussion. I'm glad I clicked. But good titles don't mislead! (To be fair, this one didn't mislead, but it was confusing at best.)

He didn't mean to! That said, the headline did make me look.

I'm having deja Vu. Was there another quite similar headline here a few weeks or so ago?



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