There is a wall in place that causes people to believe things others don’t, and vice versa.
To those seeing awful corruption here, Hunter Bidens $500k Ukrainian gas job was legitimate. They were not outraged by the emails describing a 10% cut for ‘the big guy’. Joe Biden joining business conference calls was fine.
It seems like the end of the world, but it’s no worse than we’ve seen, historically. It’s always been there.
Doubtless Hunter Biden's job was a naked nepo quasi-bribery thing, and he said and did all sorts of ridiculous things. Dude is indefensible.
But on one hand you have a president joining a conference call and not discussing business, and on the other hand you have a president literally demanding tribute, gold bars, a ballroom, firing all available oversight, blackmailing all of the universities to toe his ideological line, installing crypto and antivax scammers, and looting like it's going out of style, and meanwhile all of his kids are becoming millionaires trading openly off the name and the power.
"Barron’s first major business move came in 2024, when he co-founded World Liberty Financial, a cryptocurrency venture launched with his father and older brothers. He is even credited inside the family with explaining basic crypto concepts to his father. After Trump won the presidency, the company exploded in value. Forbes estimates it added more than $1.5 billion to Trump family wealth—about 10% of which belongs to Barron." (https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/etimes/trending/net-wort...)
Given your statements about Hunter, I believe you have decent visibility into both sides of the issue. Kudos to you.
I don’t disbelieve what you say about Trump and his family. I am certain they are cashing in on his time in office, at a tremendous pace. ( It has to be worth it, given the damage being done to the Trump corporate brand. )
I’d like your opinion on something. What do you make of these allegations?
1) Romania: On September 28, 2015, Vice President Biden welcomed Romanian President Klaus Iohannis to the White House. Within five weeks of this meeting, a Romanian businessman involved with a high-profile corruption prosecution in Romania, Gabriel Popoviciu, began depositing a Biden associate’s bank account, which ultimately made their way into Biden family accounts. Popoviciu made sixteen of the seventeen payments, totaling over $3 million, to the Biden associate account while Joe Biden was Vice President. Biden family accounts ultimately received approximately $1.038 million. The total amount from Romania to the Biden family and their associates is over $3 million.
2) China- CEFC: On March 1, 2017—less than two months after Vice President Joe Biden left public office—State Energy HK Limited, a Chinese company, wired $3 million to a Biden associate’s account. This is the same bank account used in the above “Romania” section. After the Chinese company wired the Biden associate account the $3 million, the Biden family received approximately $1,065,692 over a three-month period in different bank accounts. Additionally, the CEFC Chairman gives Hunter Biden a diamond worth $80,000. Lastly, CEFC creates a joint venture with the Bidens in the summer of 2017. The timeline lays out the “WhatsApp” messages and subsequent wires from the Chinese to the Bidens of $100,000 and $5 million. The total amount from China, specifically with CEFC and their related entities, to the Biden family and their associates is over $8 million.
3) Kazakhstan: On April 22, 2014, Kenes Rakishev, a Kazakhstani oligarch used his Singaporean entity, Novatus Holdings, to wire one of Hunter Biden’s Rosemont Seneca entities $142,300. The very next day—April 23, 2014—the Rosemont Seneca entity transferred the exact same amount of money to a car dealership for a car for Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden and Devon Archer would represent Burisma in Kazakhstan in May/June of 2014 as the company attempted to broker a three-way deal among Burisma, the Kazakhstan government, and a Chinese state-owned energy company.
4) Ukraine: Devon Archer joined the Burisma board of directors in spring of 2014 and was joined by Hunter Biden shortly thereafter. Hunter Biden joined the company as counsel, but after a meeting with Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky in Lake Como, Italy, was elevated to the board of directors in the spring of 2014. Both Biden and Archer were each paid $1 million per year ( note: I am quoting a source here. I’ve always seen this number at 500k, not 1M ) for their positions on the board of directors. In December 2015, after a Burisma board of directors meeting, Zlochevsky and Hunter Biden “called D.C.” in the wake of mounting pressures the company was facing. Zlochevsky was later charged with bribing Ukrainian officials with $6 million in an attempt to delay or drop the investigation into his company. The total amount from Ukraine to the Biden family and their associates is $6.5 million.
Are people that ignore these ‘feckless traitors’? Why or why not?
Why do you think that I'm going to defend Biden? Politics are not sports, and I don't have a "favorite team". Your silly gotcha questions won't work on me because I don't reflexively defend people just because they are supported by corrupt political organizations.
Two wrongs don't make a right, and one person's crimes do not excuse another's. Arrest them all.
We need fundamental changes in our political system, and we're not going to be able to achieve anything if you keep pretending like these whataboutisms are worth anyone's time. Wake up.
How is Hunter Biden writing a letter to an embassy the same as untraceable investments into Trump's meme coin? No deals or payments ever materialized from the Burisma letter or "the big guy" email... while Trump and his family have literally amassed billions (with a B) in profits and net worth from crypto grifting.
To compare these things to what is happening now is disingenuous. I believe you know that, but you choose loyalty to MAGA over any principles or ethics.
Hunter was paid $500k per year by a gas company. He has no expertise in the domain, and does not even speak the language. To pretend this is not corruption is amazing.
I believe you know this, but are not mentally acknowledging it because that would lead to uncomfortable internal reckonings.
What special deals did Burisma get for having Hunter Biden on their board?
Nothing about the right wing obsession with Hunter makes me uncomfortable. He has never held public office and was investigated for multiple years (along with his family) by Congress.
It’s odd that you complain about untraceable transactions in Trumps favor, but hold Biden blameless in spite of amazingly obvious corruption.
The icing on the cake is Bidens conviction on tax evasion and gun charges ( against a Democrat! The irony is too rich ). Of course Joe Biden issued a pardon, so Hunter did not go to prison.
Did you miss the part in that article where he paid back all taxes and penalties? We got a real criminal on our hands! Untimely tax payments because you were a drug addict? Straight to jail.
The gun charges were the result of a fishing expedition; rarely is anyone ever charged with those things stand-alone[0].
But that's okay, keep ignoring my questions and applying the highest scrutiny to a former drug addict and private citizen who has never held public office. Trump might give you a medal for your service in deflecting to Hunter Biden slop anytime Trump's unprecedented corruption is brought up.
Hunter Bidens crimes ( which he was convicted of ) had a 17 year sentence associated with them. Yes, that was serious jail time.
You overlooked an important aspect, one that a fair view would reveal.
Hunter Biden was central to all the business deals with foreign interests. He introduced people to Joe Biden, he brought Joe onto phone calls with them, he received and distributed millions of dollars. Hunter Biden had intimate knowledge of all these visibly corrupt dealings with President Joe Biden.
And he faced 17 years in prison. A drug addict with a history of indiscretions, yet central in all these shady dealings.
Of course he never saw jail for the crimes he was convicted of. Joe Biden pardoned his business partner. His weak link business partner.
Did that thought ever cross your mind? You throw fits about things you can’t prove about Trump, but find ways to justify and diminish anything bad about ‘your side’. Your brain is playing tricks on you.
All of what I have written is provably true. Yet you will find ways to ignore, justify, diminish.
It’s not uncommon, many people do it. For either side.
The pardons were completely justified in the face of endless political witch hunts done by Republicans in Congress and the upcoming (at the time) revenge tour from the second Trump administration.
I’m sorry, I truly believe you are incapable of seeing truth when it is in front of you. It is an amazing phenomenon of today’s bifurcated political culture.
> throw fits about things you can’t prove about Trump,
What things aren't proven? He's running a meme coin while in office, he started a mobile service provider while in office, he's pardoned crypto fraudsters, accepted a $400M jet as a "gift" from Qatar, dropped a case against Eric Adams in a quid-pro-quo attempt, and said he'd put the President of Indonesia in contact with his son for business questions. I'm sure there is much more that I'm missing but I'll ask again: how does that compare to the "Biden crime family" who's apparently sooo corrupt that they let the investigations and cases against Hunter play out under Joe's DOJ? Meanwhile Trump is literally assigning insurance lawyers to go after people because no serious prosecutor will take the case; that's a revenge tour and everyone saw it coming.
Again, the corruption is unprecedented. Whatever the Biden criminal masterminds were doing is tame in comparison to this.
EDIT: don't forget the Whitehouse dinner for investors of the meme coin either.
First: we agree, the things you have listed about Trump look like corruption to me, too. What we seem to disagree on is the corruption in the Biden administration. You seem to be unable to see that.
About the Trump allegations ( again, which look like corruption to me ): is there any more firm evidence of corruption than there was against Biden? It looks to me like both sides are accepting money, diamond rings, jets (!), luxury automobiles, etc. for similar consideration. ( Namely, access to the Executive branch of the US government ).
So why is the corruption on one side totally obvious and evil, and on the other side doubtful and excusable?
There is a wall in place that causes people to believe things others don’t, and vice versa.
To those seeing awful corruption here, Hunter Bidens $500k Ukrainian gas job was legitimate. They were not outraged by the emails describing a 10% cut for ‘the big guy’. Joe Biden joining business conference calls was fine.
It seems like the end of the world, but it’s no worse than we’ve seen, historically. It’s always been there.