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Politics and the ethics of what spez did aside, /r/The_Donald seems to be one the most nightmarish communities one can think of, and it's a huge.

Very toxic.



I can put the politics aside. But the ethics? No. The_Donald might be awful, in your opinion. But what spez did isn't just awful. It's the canonical example of bad behavior on the internet from a mod.


>The_Donald might be awful, in your opinion.

Interesting way to put it. "in your opinion." Are racist comments and harassment awful only in "opinion"? Are we not at a point where spewing racism in a public forum is not "factually awful" now?


I've been to the -chans, and I firmly believe in freedom of expression (my opinion is more complicated, but I'm simplifying). So while I think they're awful, I still think that people should have a place to say them, whether or not that is reddit.

Also, while I think it's awful, there may be others who do not.


Who gets to decide what's racist and what constitutes harassment? Isn't that a matter of opinion?


According to anti-discrimination laws in many countries, not exactly. Some of it is down to judges opinion but many times there are concrete boundaries for what is considered both harassment and racism.

Usually if you have to ask, it is.


I agree, and there are many comments threads on this post describing the magnitude and the consequences of what he did.

I just wanted to point out the growing problem that is the The_Donald and similar communities, where they relentless harass others.


You say that like this is some new phenomenon. SRS has been around for as long as I can remember. It's probably one of the most vile harassment engines because it disguises itself as a wholesome cause.


thankfully its a free market. those angry at spez can tske their business elsewhere.


To voat? Which is even worse and can't handle at all the massive traffic boost that the past two days have given it?


Would be nice if they all moved over there


Just because we think what spez did is disgraceful doesn't mean we're a bunch of alt-right Donald-worshipers. I'm not a fan of either, I just think editing message text like this is disgusting.


yes, just like we can all simply move off twitter, or facebook, or linkedin?


I think the admins were quietly hoping that Trump would lose the election and that it would die out or they would be able to remove the sub without being accused of taking a side against a presidential candidate. But now that Trump actually won the election they have a big problem in their hands.


I'm banned from /r/The_Donald, and am/was a #NeverTrump person, and I find the subreddit to be hilarious and one of the few things Reddit has going for it right now. Everything is basically what people post on Facebook, the original content of Reddit is sparse.


It is a lot of people who support their candidate who is now the president-elect, some memes, and some good debate.

Nothing about it warrants spez's behavior.




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