> So you're claiming that everyone who has ever favored Marxist ideals will without any doubt resort to mass murder when given the chance?
I don't know about the future, but the past is pretty clear. The only exceptions seem to be folks who give up such beliefs.
> McCarthyism was the same thing that the Soviets were doing to their own people. The only difference was that they were killing people instead of shaming and/or jailing them.
The same thing? Killing millions is the same as some folks losing their jobs and a (relative) few jailed for a law that predated McCarthy? Hint - that means that he had nothing to do with it. (You didn't even honestly summarize Wikipedia.)
That law, fwiw, punished folks who "knowingly or willfully advocate, abet, advise or teach the [...] desirability or propriety of overthrowing the Government of the United States or of any State by force or violence, or for anyone to organize any association which teaches, advises or encourages such an overthrow, or for anyone to become a member of or to affiliate with any such association".
I don't much like said law, but to equate it with SOP in communist countries is quite a stretch.
> But you have the SAME philosophy.
No, I don't. In other news, surgeons are not (necessarily) Jack the Ripper. There is a difference between the police and the robber, even though both might fire guns.
> You're 'breaking a few eggs' to find the Communists. How are you any better than them? Because "I'm right and they are wrong?" They believe that they are right and you are wrong. So who is really right and really wrong?
They kill millions when given the chance. That doesn't make me right, but it does make them wrong.
> Please wake up and realize that the world is not black-or-white.
Hey, another straw man.
I never wrote anything that implied that the world was black and white. I did say, however, the communists were evil.
You seem torn between "other folks are just as evil" and "communists are not evil, they just kill a lot of people who probably needed killing". Since we're mind-reading, I'll go with you really think that they're not evil but their opponents are. You do realize that the killing thing looks bad, so you're trying to put that off on people you don't like who didn't do it, but it doesn't much bother you that communists do it.
> You are bordering on wanting to execute anyone that is ever an idealist in thinking that Communism in the Marxist sense (i.e. all humans working together towards a better world)
Marxism isn't "all humans working together towards a better world". It's a very specific way of "working together" that leads to mass killing.
There are lots of ways to work together, the vast majority not being marxist. (To be fair, there are some other ways of working together that also lead to mass killing, but they're not common.)
> I doubt you're about to start arguing about the benefits of Fascism over Communism
Fascism was Communism with better clothes and a more efficient implementation. I don't count those differences as significant benefits.
I don't know about the future, but the past is pretty clear. The only exceptions seem to be folks who give up such beliefs.
> McCarthyism was the same thing that the Soviets were doing to their own people. The only difference was that they were killing people instead of shaming and/or jailing them.
The same thing? Killing millions is the same as some folks losing their jobs and a (relative) few jailed for a law that predated McCarthy? Hint - that means that he had nothing to do with it. (You didn't even honestly summarize Wikipedia.)
That law, fwiw, punished folks who "knowingly or willfully advocate, abet, advise or teach the [...] desirability or propriety of overthrowing the Government of the United States or of any State by force or violence, or for anyone to organize any association which teaches, advises or encourages such an overthrow, or for anyone to become a member of or to affiliate with any such association".
I don't much like said law, but to equate it with SOP in communist countries is quite a stretch.
> But you have the SAME philosophy.
No, I don't. In other news, surgeons are not (necessarily) Jack the Ripper. There is a difference between the police and the robber, even though both might fire guns.
> You're 'breaking a few eggs' to find the Communists. How are you any better than them? Because "I'm right and they are wrong?" They believe that they are right and you are wrong. So who is really right and really wrong?
They kill millions when given the chance. That doesn't make me right, but it does make them wrong.
> Please wake up and realize that the world is not black-or-white.
Hey, another straw man.
I never wrote anything that implied that the world was black and white. I did say, however, the communists were evil.
You seem torn between "other folks are just as evil" and "communists are not evil, they just kill a lot of people who probably needed killing". Since we're mind-reading, I'll go with you really think that they're not evil but their opponents are. You do realize that the killing thing looks bad, so you're trying to put that off on people you don't like who didn't do it, but it doesn't much bother you that communists do it.
> You are bordering on wanting to execute anyone that is ever an idealist in thinking that Communism in the Marxist sense (i.e. all humans working together towards a better world)
Marxism isn't "all humans working together towards a better world". It's a very specific way of "working together" that leads to mass killing.
There are lots of ways to work together, the vast majority not being marxist. (To be fair, there are some other ways of working together that also lead to mass killing, but they're not common.)
> I doubt you're about to start arguing about the benefits of Fascism over Communism
Fascism was Communism with better clothes and a more efficient implementation. I don't count those differences as significant benefits.